People not finding the datafiles?!?

[snowblizz]

Been chatting back and forth over on TWF, generally shamelessly butting in anytime someone talks about armylist creation programs.

Something that came up though was one guy saying that they only got the "sample system" to play with. Either they don't qite get how things has to be done and/or the datafile group isn't visible enoguh on the main page?

[furrie]

I think its also the part that you need to be a member of the group to see the files.

[snowblizz]

Indeed, a possibility. I thought I had a link to the TWF thread though. Was some interesting things there I thought might be interesting.

[IBBoard]

Any feedback like that is good. Well, not good if they're saying they can't find things, but good that we get feedback to know how to improve

Given my previous run-in with GW Legal, I didn't want to link to specific files directly (although Lone Wolf Dev get away with it) but I hoped the link from the "downloads" page was enough. If people have any ideas for improving that page (or any other, or the navigation in general) then please yell. I can come up with what I think makes sense, but I know what I designed, so external input is useful

Also, any input on the UI and what features are still outstanding for a usable "core" (create units, add equipment, save, load and export, but not 'advanced' value checking) would be greatly appreciated

[IBBoard]

The Yahoo group now has its own section in the list to make it more obvious. It was already at the bottom of the paragraph before the list anyway, but hopefully people can at least find the Yahoo group now. From there it is up to Snowblizz whether he puts a nice clear message on the front page or just opens up files so that anyone can download (assuming Yahoo are sensible enough to have a "guest download, member upload" option).

[snowblizz]

You have to be a member to download files. That's the most open it gets.

The only other thing to do is to allow anyone to join. But I'm not sure I want that. The difference AFAICT is that it is more work for me this way. Ie I ahve to approve people. Of course I *think* if its open to anyone you'll get immediate access to the filesection, so it is easier. But then again I have to lock it so only mods can upload files.

It IS an extra unnecessary step in the process. But to protect us from all kinds of **** it is unfortunately necessary. Everyone does so anyway nowadays, pretty much no place allows auto registration due to bots so people should be used to it.

I posted this because one person was saying "WarFoundry looks good but I could only use it for a few Empire units". Took me by surprise.